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Here's Why Being "Fashionable" Is a Pretty Modern Concept 

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Fanni Pauer
Fanni Pauer 2 dias atrás
Beginning of this video I got an ad of corsettes, and ladies were wearing it without any undergarment 😂😂
Tsola Omamogho
Tsola Omamogho 4 dias atrás
would you consider doing partnering with the gentleman’s gazette BRdesk channel?
Sythen
Sythen 13 dias atrás
I guess I would have been a ho. :/
VV V
VV V 16 dias atrás
4:55 we are so sorry for what we did. Please accept our apologies. -Yohji Yamamoto/Comme des gargons atelier workers.
FanArt Zone
FanArt Zone 23 dias atrás
8:01 lmao, 'young people, specially teenagers" and photo showing some adults looking like in their 40s
Whistler
Whistler 29 dias atrás
I say we ban all clothing except the mankini. Make everyone wear a mankini for everything. :D
Sebastian J
Sebastian J Mês atrás
The Countess Olenksa from Poland!
Pommejaune
Pommejaune Mês atrás
I know I'm half a year late but... Does anyone know whether her point is specific to European/Western cultures, or if fashion was seen the same in other cultures as well? (of course the fashion would be different, but it's role and the reasons to abide to it) Also she's talking pretty recent history. Anyone has insights on older periods?
LA nouveau
LA nouveau Mês atrás
Thank you for your videos. I have greatly enjoyed learning so much!! Not only are you so informative, but you deliver the information in such a relatable, personable clear style. Thank you!!
Hawt N Sawcey
Hawt N Sawcey Mês atrás
This is super informative!! I really appreciate these vids, it's a joy to listen to you and your expertise is so impressive
Ark Newman
Ark Newman Mês atrás
Ver informative! Thanks!
Fatma T
Fatma T Mês atrás
I don't know about the uptight person wanting to be fashionable. Reading Anne of Green Gables, it was very clear that the sensible uptight Marila was very much against puffy sleeves, and teenage Anne would kill for one fashionable puffy sleeved dress.
Welp SendHelp
Welp SendHelp Mês atrás
Then: rich people make laws so that poor people cant dress in our clothes. Now:Greetings poor people, Im rich all I wear everyday forever is this gray tshirt, here, buy my china-sweatshop-made fast fashion.
海老根充
海老根充 Mês atrás
I think that sounds bit like being "fashionable" in Japan nowadays; people really can't choose what to wear without completely ignoring "society's eyes".
Tyler Campbell
Tyler Campbell Mês atrás
You should make a video about women’s fashion in the Middle East. I know a lot of them follow strict dress code, but I figure there must be some way that they alter their outfits to follow a specific trend. It’d be interesting to learn about and see a video on
Denver C.
Denver C. Mês atrás
5:47 Poor, poor Janet Jackson...
moonnightwalk
moonnightwalk 2 meses atrás
actually, fashion is still regional, I experienced it firsthand, as I lived in the US and then returned home in a developing country. I raised eyebrows on both sides upon arrival and gradually blended in as my clothes were getting old/tight and replaced from what was offered at the place I was living. Also, I still love some brands I used to buy in the US, but buying them is a hassle, takes a long time, and also I can afford to go to a tailor now, so my wardrobe is different again - even as I don't care about blending in now. Basically to be fashionably cosmopolitan, one has to be able to regulary visit the places that dictate the modern fashion. Shopping online and following street fashion online won't give you the feeling of what is the real fashion for real people. That means you have to have money and time to do that - and this is a marker of a certain social class.
James Le Page
James Le Page 2 meses atrás
You were right when you spoke about the late sixties. I'm pleased to say that I partook in the new trends coming from Great Britain, Germany, and Italy. It was very exciting. Many parents/adults questioned these trends but, I'm pleased to say many enjoyed and embraced them as well. Vicariously, yes, but still showed an interest in the new fashions and trends. I believe that no matter what time one lived in there were individuals that appreciated taken the extra time to grooming themselves. Even if it was to just add an extra button.
Something cool like 'Beat Vengeance'
Future people will wear plastic wrap and need no mans(laws) Or it could be very dystopian idk
tomatoribs
tomatoribs 2 meses atrás
I loved this video so much, I think this is really important to talk about! Would you happen to still have the resources you used for this (if you had any specific ones), and might you be willing to share them? I'm currently doing my bachelor's thesis on the relationship of clothing and social identity in our current times, and I've been searching for good references in history to reflect upon. I'm concentrating on European fashion/dress history, so if anyone in the comments also has any recommendations I'd happily hear them! :)
calicolyon
calicolyon 2 meses atrás
A few years ago I took my mom out shopping because my grandmother was more in style than she was. I got her to buy a few things that looked great on her and was appropriate for her age not her mom's.
Rino PW
Rino PW 2 meses atrás
The last frame lol
John Keck
John Keck 2 meses atrás
It would be interesting to compare the respective mentalities behind the timescales of fashion changes. The new, boundary-pushing mentality toward fashion had a shorter timescale. But did the older, conformist mentality remain linked to the longer timescales characteristic of past fashion?
Tushar Mulchandani
Tushar Mulchandani 2 meses atrás
0:44 Imagine dripping so hard you get arrested
Kate FX
Kate FX 2 meses atrás
Granny gowns in the 1970s. The USA's first lady Hillary Clinton wore a granny gown for her wedding. weddedwonderland.com/hillary-clintons-wedding-photos/ I don't know if you had that where you are, but we all had at least one granny gown dress.
JoshKimchee
JoshKimchee 2 meses atrás
For anyone wondering, the music in the background is Arabesque no. 1 by Claude Debussy
K R
K R 2 meses atrás
In the Victorian Era, rules were important. Rule-following was important. What the majority thought and cared about was important. Dressing in fashion was an overt way of showing that you knew what the rules and expectations were, not just in dress, but in life. A well-dressed woman didn't just select the approved silhouette-- she picked the approved colors, the right fabrics and embellishments for her "station" and age, the right everything, and by so doing she signaled that she was a safe person to bring into your social circles, because she knew her place.
azulito
azulito 2 meses atrás
i loved it, you are like our teacher
Judi Sutherland
Judi Sutherland 2 meses atrás
There must be a PhD in ‘The origins of Vintage Fashion - wearing retro style in the 1970s - motivation and semiotics’.
Danielle Groves
Danielle Groves 2 meses atrás
When she says "What was fashionable in one country doesn't mean it's fashionable in another" (Bad at paraphrasing) Did anyone else think of Henry the 8th poor Germanic wife. Or how Queen Elizabeth 1 made a law that every 'unfashionable (poor)' person must wear a wool hat on sundays...No I am the only one with Tudor's on the brain ok sorry lol.
aaron helton
aaron helton 2 meses atrás
'Deborah what are you wearing?"
Sarah Bent
Sarah Bent 2 meses atrás
Re: wearing vintage clothes. The other reason that it wasn't common in the past was because of the habit of doing over dresses, and having a valid way to sell your clothes on. Therefore there weren't a lot of vintage clothes sitting around waiting to be bought and worn.
Con Lon
Con Lon 2 meses atrás
Cool I love it really so much you are so amazing
Sarah Holley
Sarah Holley 2 meses atrás
is that Debussy in the background i hear?
Loren Wood
Loren Wood 3 meses atrás
It’s a shame you didn’t mention anything about men’s fashion
LTH
LTH 2 meses atrás
Men cared more about fashion for most of history and menswear basically stopped evolving after ww1.
Staci Lyn
Staci Lyn 3 meses atrás
ah the lipstick smudge of knowledge
sergeigen1
sergeigen1 3 meses atrás
This whole video, she is just describing tokyo
Alejandra Pinto
Alejandra Pinto 3 meses atrás
How insane is it that poor people back then could afford to follow fashion somehow yet poor people today can barely afford getting dressed at all
Naturallyashley86 Pearson
"Debrah what are you wearing?" LOL
Catherine DePrez
Catherine DePrez 3 meses atrás
"No matter what women do, there would always be someone criticizing it" ^ Oh look, things that seem to stay the same forever... Love Karolina's look for this video though! You've Got It Meme Mom!
Sayuri Rimal
Sayuri Rimal 3 meses atrás
You are a goddess!!!!
Jody Diou
Jody Diou 3 meses atrás
🤣🤣🤣5:20
Liam Wiesenberger
Liam Wiesenberger 3 meses atrás
did mens fashion follow a similar timeline as womens fashion in this regard?
Skirted Galleons
Skirted Galleons 3 meses atrás
"Debra, what are you wearing?" lololol Excellent video, thanks!
Maira Bay
Maira Bay 3 meses atrás
Having grown up in the 90s, I kind of disagree with the idea that people nowadays dress "historically accurate" clothes from the recent decades. I can't speak for other decades, but *I cringe* when I see kids these days saying they are dressing "grunge style" while wearing torn skinny pants and a fitted top underneath a flannel shirt. In the 90s everybody wore baggy clothes: baggy jeans, lose-fitting shirts, baggy shorts, etc. I know because I was there. I hung out with a lot of punk and skateboarding crowd, and I can tell you, there was nothing thight fitting about that fashion. Everything was big and baggy!
Jana Ville
Jana Ville 3 meses atrás
I'd love to see a video about the people who changed the course of fashion!!
jenniewilliamsmural
jenniewilliamsmural 3 meses atrás
I was one of those 1970s vintage loving freaks. My grandmother was appalled, esp with my choice of black - the color of old age and mourning. You are a Bomblette. Warmest regards Jennie
Andy Smith
Andy Smith 3 meses atrás
I just never try to be fashionable. I realised my favourite outfit is a singlet with a waistcoat. Is it fashionable? No. I look like a circus employee but I love it.
Irene Minel
Irene Minel 3 meses atrás
The novel that you talk about "The Age of Innocence", was adapted to film by Martin Scorsese. I know nothing about historical accuracy, but the movie is beautifully done. If you haven't seen it, I truly recommend it.
thedemonnemo
thedemonnemo 3 meses atrás
The term boobage in a Polish accent is truely "wspaniały"!
cookablecookie
cookablecookie 4 meses atrás
Karolina: "if something as small as a wardrobe malfunction could kill your social life..." Janet Jackson: *glares*
Christian Ureña
Christian Ureña 4 meses atrás
I was so focused paying attention to Karolina until I saw the caption of the video and laugh so hard I missed like 5 entire minutes
The Noobest Girl
The Noobest Girl 4 meses atrás
Some French aristocrat: Debra what are you wearing?! 😱🤢 Debra, just doing her thing: 🤟👁️👄👁️🖕
Nedislava Degrade
Nedislava Degrade 4 meses atrás
Oh, Deborah...you're disgusting! :D
E Series
E Series 4 meses atrás
You teach me better than my history teacher lmao
ESC Lusbula
ESC Lusbula 4 meses atrás
The beginning of the video would be very accurate for languages too. The high status people had to learn Greek and Latin, meanwhile the rest could stick to their maternal language, there was hella lot of linguistic variety in Europe back then but from the 19th century on it became more apparent that a nation should opt for one language only. And thus we lost all of the basic pillars of language, architecture, fashion, art... Pretty much the entire culture. Sorry for interrupting tho.
Black Rose
Black Rose 4 meses atrás
Fashionable sounds like it means trendy by when you said "you would adjust the skirt to make it more fashionable"
Ewcix
Ewcix 4 meses atrás
Powiedziałaś, że szczególnie w XIXw. istotne było przestrzeganie etykiety. Czy to znaczy, ze wcześniej nie aż tak? Przy okazji- czy sa jakieś interesujące lektury poruszające ten temat?
Sigourney Di Blasi
Sigourney Di Blasi 4 meses atrás
I'm going to share my little knowledge about this. I'm from a small kingdom part of Spanish kingdom. Until some decades ago, what people could were was ruled by Petrucios (old people of the village). It's a very populated area, with loads of water, so there are small villages all around. Until the war (Spanish civil war 1936-1939) only burguesy and nobles wore 'á la mode' fashion, villagers and peasants wore the same thing that kind of people wore in XVI century, only with very small details changing like some accesories. In fact, their earrings were the same style as they were in medieval times, and some even older to that. It's somehow the same silhouette and paesant fashion as in all Europe (skirts tied to the waist to help the weight and to occult the pregnancy, linen and hemp shirts, wool panties, some form of stays) what make the difference was the upper graments (on my parts they used to wear a capelette crossed in the front, on top of the 'justillo', while in other parts of Europe they wore a more 'external' vest on top of the vest).
reallifelove
reallifelove 4 meses atrás
and here we are in COVID times when there is no use for fashion at all, and the last video I watched was literally titled "I put on pants today la la la" (credit to Julie Nolke). Oh and God forbid we blend in, that would spread pandemic (what was that about the tiniest speck ruining someone's life?)
Matxalen C
Matxalen C 4 meses atrás
When you say "adjust the skirt," would they cut the fabric out or leave it in for easier adjustments for later?
my. dumpling
my. dumpling 4 meses atrás
reagency ladies were history bounding 2 centuries ago
LTH
LTH 2 meses atrás
Once you start to think about it everything is history bounding.
The weirdly friendly Mushroom
"Before of that you would wear so many pigeons out of nowhere" Now this is a fashion world I want to see
Eric Velez
Eric Velez 4 meses atrás
Yea! What is Deborah wearing? I’m glad someone finally said it.
Benjamin Acuna
Benjamin Acuna 4 meses atrás
Regional fashions and trends have always been fascinating and the idea of keeping regional fashion seems to be making a resurgence like the rise in “street” fashion becoming more and more trendy
Amour Toujours
Amour Toujours 4 meses atrás
My fashion style is me. A melange of so many different styles. Some days I feel goth. Some days, bohemian. Some days, chic. Other days, girl next door. And sometimes sporty. Classique. All labels labels labels. Which have no use since I don't plan to put myself in a box.
FilbieTron
FilbieTron 4 meses atrás
Can you talk about historial androgynous fashion or mens' fashion??
ioan jones
ioan jones 4 meses atrás
Debra...WHAT ARE YOU WEARING?!?!
agcupcakestudioss
agcupcakestudioss 4 meses atrás
Biba brought a deco revival in the 70s with 30s and sometimes 20 and 40s clothes and Pamela Des barres and music groupies were doing vintage styles inn the 60s because they were more feminine and luxurious and delicate than the styles of the time but they also maintained a modern siliuette
True Course
True Course 4 meses atrás
Thank you for existing. Dzienkuje
Oded Kedem
Oded Kedem 4 meses atrás
Regarding wearing old stuff: it was a general trend, that whatever had been fashionable for the elite had BECOME fashionable for the commons about a generation later. For example, take the traditional clothing of the ULTRA-orthodox Jews for the past 350~400 years (or so) - ORIGINALLY, it was the dressing of the Polish nobility, the Szlachta, in around 1,600 (or so?) I think - and, a few decades afterwards, once they had already pretty much abandoned it, perhaps? (not so sure about it...), the Jews at Poland-Lithuania took it and made it their own style.
LadyNikitaShark
LadyNikitaShark 4 meses atrás
The dean of the uni I went was an historian and made obligatory for all degrees to have two semesters of history, one for world history and one for the history of the degree a person is specializing in. This video just reminds me of him lol
Ed Livingston
Ed Livingston 4 meses atrás
U R very pretty!
Miranda Khoury
Miranda Khoury 4 meses atrás
"The Age of Innocence" by Edith Wharton is such a good book! cool that you're reading it
Stephanie SLC84 Cobban
Stephanie SLC84 Cobban 4 meses atrás
I so enjoy your content 🙏 Thank you for creating 💜
Dana Capponi
Dana Capponi 4 meses atrás
2:02 worry not, this can still be achieved by wearing a cool fit and visiting your parents
Jo Lilly
Jo Lilly 4 meses atrás
day one of asking for a video about old costumes and dressing up (halloween etc.)
Jo Lilly
Jo Lilly 4 meses atrás
"suddenly the teenagers were fashionable and everyone else felt left behind because they didn't belong to the secret fashion club" ... *painful memories Karolina?"*
Jo Lilly
Jo Lilly 4 meses atrás
"debora what are you wearing" lmaooo
Mark Hines
Mark Hines 4 meses atrás
You're beautiful carolina, are youarried?
Fredrika Jacobsson
Fredrika Jacobsson 4 meses atrás
Back then the drive to update your wardrobe and adhere to current fashion trends was mainly rooted in the desire to conform to civil society and secure your place in it. In those days your appearance suggested a great deal about your character and certainly played a role in where you'd end up in the world, especially as a female. We still see these cultural attitudes echoed in modern society today.
clairvaux
clairvaux 4 meses atrás
"No matter what women did, there would be someone criticising them." Everyone felt that. Shoutout to the boys who would go "does she think she's going on a fashion show?" when I dressed nice and the boys who would chastise me like "why do you always wear so short?" when I dressed like a slob. They're the sort of people whom if I found fallen into a ditch, I would not help them up 😌
pianobooks42
pianobooks42 4 meses atrás
This is super helpful for me as an author/illustrator! I definitely didn’t understand the different meaning of fashion and wrote inaccurate character choices based on that. Thanks for explaining this clearly!
glypnir
glypnir 4 meses atrás
I think the basic imperatives of fashion are still the same. It seems to me that the biggest modern difference is that clothes are so much cheaper to make, so there are just so many options. People used to have very few sets of clothes, so they had to select very conservatively. Now it’s like, whatever dude.
glypnir
glypnir 4 meses atrás
@Countries To Go I agree that we should pay the people who make our clothes a livable wage and decent working hours. But I think that there are huge amounts of automation for much of the construction of clothes. Almost no one is planting, picking, cleaning, dyeing, spinning, weaving, or embroidering cotton by hand. Processing of other natural fibers is similarly automated, and synthetic fibers are even easier. Much cutting is now done automatically, and some sewing. Certainly very little sewing is done by hand - it's all done with sewing machines. Same for knitting, although it's a hobby for some. Women used to spend much or their time on many of these tasks everywhere, and produce much less.
Countries To Go
Countries To Go 4 meses atrás
It would actually cost almost the same now as it did back then if we paid the people who made our clothes a livable wage and decent working hours.
kristinheatherstar
kristinheatherstar 5 meses atrás
It’s yet another distraction for women. Like being shaved from eyelashes down, annoying! Cute content...
Kelly Bromfield
Kelly Bromfield 5 meses atrás
"I love fashion history!" - me laying on my couch in leggings and a giant sweatshirt knowing that I have worn "public" clothing less than 15 times since March. Thanks COVID.
Frat Guide
Frat Guide 5 meses atrás
I like that Karolina is a Fashionable Historian as well as a Fashion Historian. I like that these videos ask us to think critically about the past and remove our assumptions
David Pavlas
David Pavlas 5 meses atrás
*DEBORAH, WHAT ARE YOU WEARING?!*
The Hardins
The Hardins 5 meses atrás
Midevil royalties way of preventing someone from wearing the same dress as them.
littlepinkskeleton
littlepinkskeleton 5 meses atrás
Does anyone know the origin of the red dress shown at 9:18? Or at least what I should Google so I can save the picture?
Demera
Demera 5 meses atrás
You know, this video convinced me that being fashionable isn’t a modern concept at all 😅
Bubbly Emma
Bubbly Emma 5 meses atrás
I looove these historic videos
Tania Perez
Tania Perez 5 meses atrás
DEBRA WHAT ARE YOU WEARING
slappy burrito
slappy burrito 5 meses atrás
pesky intrusive pigeons
Carol Koski
Carol Koski 5 meses atrás
4:00 Karolina talking about how poor people could be fashionable AND not spend money doing so by fixing and adjusting their old dresses is one of the many reasons why I don't like the new Little Women movie. The book has entire PASSAGES about them fixing their old dresses, about Meg adjusting her plain dress to wear it for parties she would go to but noooo let's get them a new dress for every day of the week no one will notice
thirty someting mama thirty something mama
PREACH!! Karolinko:)
Alexa B
Alexa B 5 meses atrás
dEbOrAh WhAt ArE yOu WeArInG?!?!?!?!
Restless Bear
Restless Bear 5 meses atrás
I am a woman. I guess I don’t really wear vintage. Or do I? Since I wear men’s vintage clothing and it’s modern for women to wear masculine clothing? I’m a bit confused lmao.
Mindy Moyer
Mindy Moyer 5 meses atrás
I love you outfit!! Yellow looks great on you!
Axel Lisenstain
Axel Lisenstain 5 meses atrás
Here's me before starting the vid: wasn't most of humanity poor af for the longest time and that's pretty all that's about to be said?
Axel Lisenstain
Axel Lisenstain 5 meses atrás
And finally here's me after the vid: yeah I'm a fool, fascinating stuff as always. There's plenty of places where you can feel the echoes of that mentality though, the corporate culture of looking sameish to everyone else but not outdated comes to mind.
Axel Lisenstain
Axel Lisenstain 5 meses atrás
Here's me in the middle of the vid: boobage
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