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That mask and dress and the way Yennefer poses in the image you used for the thumbnail only makes me think of 50 shades of grey and it's really making her look very cheap, which I'm sure isn't at all the type of character she is.
Witchcraft was introduced in the 19th century to the public by creatures like A. Crowley and Blavatsky and the likes as the "externalization of the occult" as ordered by Alice Bailey. Thus, if you google early witchcraft photos you'll find witches Victorian style. Which is where your association comes from.
Costumes for this show were, “a total mess”. I enjoyed the rest of it, the story line etc. enough to read the books, but the costume designers clearly didn’t and they didn’t test the the costumes on the actors in the environment. I will bet the actor playing Yen had all kinds of problems with the costumes, especially props catching on that rope dress. I have heard that some changes were made for next season.
LOL this made me laugh, while I agreed with most of the opinions, I think people who do not know historical clothing nor the game outfits benefitted the most when watching the series since they're not mentally pointing out all the odd bits, but yes, you both raised up very good and interesting points! 👍👍
Yennefer was so underwhelming in the series especially when you come from the game and the book. Truly they could have given her proper clothing; even her hair is too "modern" :( Truly, as with a lot of the comments, the costumes really lacked cohesiveness and even good tailoring :/ As Karolina mentioned and showed, a lot of the clothes looked like they were rushed or bought off AliExpress :(
I disagree with your comments on the armor. We tend to forget that there are more than one kind of leather, some are soft and malleable and some are strong and stiff. Also, on most kinds of attempt injuries a more flexible armor can be about as good as a completely stiff one (because physics 🙃). Like, for example, there was a group of people in Latin America that used an armor made out of a fabric made of plant fibers, and when the Spanish got in contact with them those Spanish ended up changing their metal armors for the fabric armor because it was waaaaaaay lighter (less than half the weight) and just about 5% less protective, so it was a great improvement for those Spanish that used it.
just coming back to comment on this after seeing your reaction to the bridgerton costumes.... so let me get this straight.... a FANTASY show that doesnt even take place ON EARTH gets harsher criticism than a show that does? dude seriously? c'mon man
Calanthe's armour actually garbage. Flat chest will not protect from the impact. In fact curve in the brest section (not boobs like) would add real protection for heavy blunt weapon. Also i think belt must be higher. Oh ffs just watch metatron's vid or other history youtubers. But the concept artist who have designed nilfgaardian armor must be ... uh, i don't know do i want a man (or a woman) lose his (or her) job, but at least send him on courses or something like this...
I really enjoy your take on historical fashion... I just don't personally think that the Witcher costumes are as bad as you make them out to be... especially since it's fantasy!!
Some Roman armour was leather with overlapping plates , as was Chinese. It also had padded wool underneath. Reproductions have been tested to be effective in repelling arrows, so that is historically accurate, although the Witchers does not look like that.
I really do like your videos. They taught me so much about fashion history. One thing I would love is a video discussing the costumes in "Gone with the Wind". They are so gorgeous, but are they accurate for the Civil War period? What do you think about them?
The metal studs or rivets..brigandine, a type of lowcost but fairly effivient armor of small plates riveted to cloth or leather, often lined...from 13th to late 16th cent.
*rocks up 9 months late* I can kinda find the lack of cohesive fashion understandable if you take it that during the conjunction of the spheres, multiple cultures and peoples from different time periods (and universes ofc) were thrown together, and so there was no organic evolution of fashion on the continent.
I think it makes a bit of sense for Calanthe to dress less extravagantly by choice since she wanted to give off her aggressive Lioness vibe. That she didn't dress Ciri in more elaborate dress like she seemed to do with Pavetta was odd to me, though.
I told my boyfriend I didn't like how the female clothing in the party scene of the first episode didn't look like they came from the same place and time and he almost tried to fight me I'm like dude. I have spent so many frikkin hours on the internet learning about historical clothing and costuming and stuff and this is incoherent. Really liked the 1890s outfits and a bunch of the capes, though
I'm really curious about what they are going to do with the outfits in the second season. Most outfits I kinda forgot about but I was absolutely a big fan of Ciri's main outfit and Geralt's outfit in the first episode with the cloak. Yennefer's outfits were all over the place. I feel like they were kind of experimenting with her outfits, especially because she has this big "make-over" scene so she has to really have a special style that portrays that she looks beautiful in this extraordinary way. They didn't quite find her style yet. I think they really need to work on silhouette and practicality with her outfits. More elegant, less modern and a bit more practical when she goes...mountain climbing. Or maybe they should add a scene where her dress gets stuck on a bush, I don't know. Would make me happy.
Leather armor was probably much cheaper to make for those fighting with ranged weapons (like archers) and if treated and lined, was durable, comfortable, lightweight and somewhat protective. Metal armor is heavy af no matter how well made and I would guess that you didn't have every soldier able to wear it and fight except in heavy infantry situations. Freedom of movement had to be an issue as well as stealth and expense. I'm only guessing here from playing lots of fantasy video games and having an addiction to the SCA. 😎
So the Elves and some other magical races in the Witcher universe are basically refugees because humans have pushed them out if their lands. I think that's pretty well communicated in their outfits as well as where the Witcher finds them and the conversation they had during their interactions.
I don't think it is fair to roast a fantasy world's costumes. It isn't the real world and it is magical so it doesn't need to be historically accurate.
I'm not into fashion but the Hussite mercenaries had extremely extravagant clothing. Check out the Hussite Soldiers they wore bight colors over brighter colors and slash the fabric and even wear tassels it would be very extreme in any century THEIR COD PEICES WERE GIGANTIC
My issue with Nilfgardian (sp?) armour isn't that it would be totally ineffective. You can make good leather armour that protects well. The historically accurate armour would be basically a thickly and tightly woven jacket called a gambeson (surprisingly effective). Schmoes in your army would be in gambeson at best. The Nilfgardian armour design would just require waste of materials, and massive amount of time spent on a design that provides no additional value. So that armour would be needlessly expensive to use for you entire army. If they wanted to use it exclusively as careers.promote Culinary military dress or for the elites only, that would excuse the impracticality and expense. Why not spend that money on gambeson & chain mail like real history? Probably cheaper and definitely more effective.
If they didn't want to put much thought into the actual design they could have done a olor coding for the kingdoms cause they just all muddle together so much I keepo thinking "wait that's a royal? they're dressed like everyone else I've seen before"
Not a huge fan of Geralt's armor. It's clearly supposed to look like brigandine with the shape and such, but they don't commit to it at all. The studs on the armor look like they were put there purely to look neat without actually understanding why brigandine has those, and the implied plates beneath(?) the fabric were way too far apart, plus they weren't even real since the bend and flex all the time. I think brigandine armor is a good fit for Geralt and the setting, however, I feel like they missed the mark. Of course, I'm totally leaving out the super tight leather pants because it should go without saying that those are just so dumb.
I think what we’ve learned is that the costumers for The Witcher need to decide WHAT their inspiration is. They can have different eras of inspiration for different classes or locations, but they can’t have different eras of inspiration for every single character. And they REALLY can’t have different eras of inspiration for every outfit for a single character. It just confuses the mood and makes us wonder what the costumes are trying to say.
Can you please rate the costumes in BBC Merlin??? I hold it so close to my heart but I am SO interested in your opinion on if they were accurate or if they weren't, where the inspirations came from!
Hold your horses on the armor! That's not how it works! Leather armor was used in a variety of situations throughout the medieval period and worked just fine!
I keep hearing "This is just fantasy, it doesn't have to be historically accurate", and so on. And, you are right. But only to a certain point. The costumes, same as the props, sets and make up, give a context to the the story. If we are taking about fairytail epic fantasy, like Warcraft, it's only natural for everything to be exaggerated and imaginative. But if it is a dark fantasy, closely resembling the actual atmosphere of Medieval times, of course the realism and certain groundedness (if that is a real word) is essential. The Witcher is a dark fantasy to the core, and, in order for the story's feeling to match with the atmosphere of the world, realism, practicality and consistency are the three kee words. And everything about the Netflix Witcher is neither unique and creative enough to pass by "it's just a fantasy" excuse, nor is it consistent ,diverse and realistic enough to create a believable and alive world
... no offence, but... 'Witcher' universum is... not exactly trying to... ekhm... You know... portrait /// real historic events ///, isn't it, so... what's the point in ... never mind, I'll walk myself out...
Honestly the costumes were hit and miss for me. Some of them i just... screamed. Cause i hated them. The thing that i just could NOT get over was Yennifers make up. The actress has these stunning, just beautiful eyes. They are big and have such a beautiful shape and with the contacts you cant look away. So the smokey eye was just... god aweful. It weighed down her whole face and just doesnt suit her face at all. All she needs is like some light grey shadow and a really simple eye liner. The eye makeup is just SO. HEAVY. I couldnt get over it. Yennifer's beauty can be whatever, it can be super subjective but they arent really playing into what she already has feature wise and it just ruins it. EDIT: My boyfriend is also a huge Witcher fan (games not books) and he too didnt really like the casting for Triss either. Shes apparently known and recognized by her flameing red hair and the fact that she doesnt have that in the show rubbed him the wrong way. Im seeing a lot of people talk about fashion consistancy and i didnt notice it before but ya. Theres really not a lot of it.
As someone from Czech Republic, I very much enjoyed the names being pronounced correctly (as in a Slavic correct way), THANK YOU :D As for the costumes, I agree with many other comments here - it's the lack of consistency and cohesiveness that's the issue. Also yes, there's pretty much everything wrong with Triss in the tv show...
The armor in the tv show is RUBBISH of the highest caliber. The games have superb "costume" design because they drew inspiration heavily from the late 15th/early 16th Centuries. Even the armour looks just like you expect a 1480-1520 royal court to look like. It's cohesive, it's familiar, it's... great. Besides, the Witcher series is supposed to be, foremost, an exploration of the plausibility and morality of fairytales. Having Age of Chivalry inspired clothing, architecture and armor is just an extension of that. The TV show, though, wanted to do their own thing, and they fell into the most egregious of fantasy costume designer traps: the hybris of thinking one can design better clothing and armour (in a specific technological context) that the people who spent years doing so. Look at those Nilfgaardian costumes... what is that supposed to be? I like your thought on using 16-17th Century Polish style for... Something. Temeria, or I don't know, something. They don't need to have winged hussars and Wisniowiecki style pomp... but it would be awesome.
I mean you cant judge it on historical accuracy while its not based anywhere in history. Same problem was with people judging black people in the cast and that it was not historically accurate while it was a fantasy world. Yes triss was not black in the book but it wasnt a big problem really
@Emily DeWitt The show based on the books more accurately want to based on the books. i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/0d/34/e30d34472ffbd4d0e931674a816cd2fd.jpg www.glitched.online/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/gchojnacki_nilfgaard_knight_lowpoly_by_scratcherpen-d7drabn.jpg I think you can see the difference.
Can you rate the costumes in Game of Thrones? The earlier seasons had some of my favorite dresses! Edit: can you also review the costumes in the 2013 The Great Gatsby
